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By: Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury

Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:52:57 +0000

Yes mohamad. Basically, chip tuning usually moves the peak power and peak torque upwards on the rpm range, and the rpm range is usually extended by moving up the redline.

The best results of 50+ hp gain are usually obtained in turbo engines, which are sometimes detuned just so the company can sell another model with a higher tune at a higher price. For example, Audi used to sell the TT with a 180 hp and a 225 hp engine. Almost no difference in engine except for the software.

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:26:45 +0000

the one that we used in genavco was dyno meter, actually our testing was only on the engine without the car or truck (the gross hp).
mash, this can happen till a certian limit of course..right???
if you increase it too much the stresses will cause a loss in the power even the efficiency will decrease…
in general…assassin dont let any one play with your car or you will lose the warranty… and as mash said you will decrease the life of the engine…

By: assassin

assassin — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:01:11 +0000

i will ask my brother that if the shop guy increases the revs, or does something else.

By: assassin

assassin — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:14:02 +0000

so, that machiene is called dynometer i didnt know that. thanks

By: Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury

Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:55:05 +0000

It’s in the tuning rather than just simply increasing the redline of course. Peak power can be increased in any car if it can be revved higher, and usually losing low-rev torque in the process. That’s how a Honda S2000 gets 240 hp with a redline of 8000+ rpm, and it is built to withstand that.

Formula 1 engines can rev to 15,000+ rpm, but they only last 1 or 2 races. If the GMC engine isn’t designed to rev higher, bad things can happen.

I am pretty sure a GMC would feel slower in everyday driving after any chip tuning, even if faster in drag racing, whatever the hp gain.

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:46:32 +0000

actually mash in my training in genavco in the dynometer, if you increase the rpm above its limit the hp will start decreasing

By: Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury

Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:24:46 +0000

I’ve been looking for info on any respectable tuning chips for GMC, and all I could find for 50+ hp gain are for tubodiesel trucks. If this shop has a dyno, all I can think of is they’ll either play with the setting of their dyno if they are dishonest, or they’ll raise the redline very high and say they increased the hp, but you might actually lose some low-rpm torque and reduce the life of the engine.

But maybe I’m wrong and these guys are so good that few in the world can do what they do.

By: assassin

assassin — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:55:04 +0000

my brother has 5.3 2006 GMC sierra, he went to a shop that doing this. the shop has a machiene for recording the hp of the weels of car and the number was 275hp. the man told my brother that is going to be more than 310hp after installing the software from a laptop.
But he asked for 2000dhs, so my brother did’nt do it.

By: Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury

Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:44:22 +0000

Any shop claiming to get 40-50 hp from software only is lying. Plus the little 5-10 hp gains they really get are actually done by raising the rpm limit and such, so if it is done wrongly by a non-reputed place, then the engine will blow up earlier.

The only cars that can get 50 hp by chip-tuning are TURBO cars like VW and Mini Cooper S.

And you will not find gross hp because hardly any company outside the GCC use it, so most ompanies don’t bother releasing that number.

By: assassin

assassin — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:28:21 +0000

mash, some people here just install a softwere in their computer’s cars that make the car stronger by 40-50hp. is that ok if i did or my LC will destroy?

also, mash, do you know the gross power of my V8 LC? i cant find it.

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:22:24 +0000

thanks assassin for giving me those information..what i need now is to look at the car in the showroom of alfuttaim..and compare the look for both of them…i’ll inform you with the latest updates….thanks again

By: assassin

assassin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:03:54 +0000

thatsit, 1. VXR is always V8
2.the differences are, KDSS,multi information display with steering display control, remote engine start, and electrical steering adjust.
3. there are three types of VX-R. 1. 214000dhs 2. 226000dhs 3. 248000dhs. and 2 types GX-R V8 196000dhs and 201000 dhs. speaking with GX-R V6 there are two types 171000 and 181000. so it comes with fixed options. you cant order as you want.
4.the PWR button its like sports button and believe me it helps on the sand.
5. the LSD is standard on all GXR models,
6. i think you mean 2H, because there is nothing is called 2L in any SUV in the world, and yes you are right, no 2H because it is always 4WD.
7. I HAVE GXR V8 201K Dhs with these options for the RR diff +sunroof+curtain airbags, without these options it costs 196000 Dhs.

I dont know about fuel, i dont think about petrol because i dont drive much. the betrol cost 160 dhs and goes for 540km it stays 2 weeks, 320 dhs in month is nothing

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:48:08 +0000

OMG i hate reading…btw am free this week because am in a vacation for the spring break.
the fuel consuption numbers are ok
what about the review for the QX 2008
many things have changed and the whole dashboard changed.
i read both of them before and i will read them now

By: Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury

Mashfique Hussain Chowdhury — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:06:54 +0000

Hey mohamad, almost all the questions you are asking me are answered in my reviews for the QX and the LC. The official numbers are in the guide. So I am going to make you read! The more specific questions I'll leave to assassin.

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:53:42 +0000

thanks alot for your explanation..i think i have to take you with me when i go with my brother to look at other cars
i have many questions now
1. the VXR is always V8????
2. the difference in price betwn the GXR V8 And the VXR (13000) is because of that system only(kdss)???
3. if we ordered the VXR and we dont want to add all of the optional stuff, can we do that???(i,e just the sunroof for examlpe!!!)
4. the PWR button its like sports button (i.e its not for off roading????)
5.the (LSD) is standard in the GXR also??
6.you dont have the 4H thing and the 2L(because your car is always 4wheel drive)???
7. you paid 5000 for the RR diff +sunroof+curtain airbags or just for the Diff-look????
you have the VXR V8 and you paid extra 5000 (219000) for the 3 options. it came with all the options you mentioned above(i.e the 4 systems).
the last and the most important question: for you and mash if he was reading, which one consumes fuel more the QX or the LC??? i need the offical numbers from the dealers. because its known that the 5.6 L engine from nisssan consumes less than the vtec engine for patrol and the V8 engine for LC (the old one). thank you again people for helping me and waiting for your reply

By: assassin

assassin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:12:33 +0000

my LC got many bottons for offroading things, 1- there is PWR botton, this one makes the gearbox sportier, (if you dont want to use tiptronic, just push this botton.

2- there is a limited slip diffrential (LSD) botton or you can call it centre differential lock. this system divisions the power 50:50 front wheels : rear wheels. when you push this botton, you can feel that the LC got better power and handling, but just when you crossing very rough sand.

3- there is 4LO. it called double arround here, it is good for towing stucked car. i afraid using 4LO , because it makes my LC got very very strong terque. you can feel that when you want to stop the car, you should push the brake pedal twice stronger to stop. so it not helpful for sand bashing, just shift it when you stock in the sand.

4- there is RR DIFF-LOCK. which i payed 5000 Dhs more to get it which comes with sunroof and curtain airbags options. it is very helpful when you stuck in smoth sand or mud. you can switch it on after switching to 4LO which 4LO is gonna switch LSD Automaticly. notice: the ABS will not work during rr diff-lock time

By: assassin

assassin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:41:20 +0000

and mash sayd about QX (We managed a 0-100 kph time of 8.3 seconds, while in four-wheel-drive mode, it takes as long as 9 seconds.,)

so it takes 9 seconds while my v8 LC. 8.6 seconds which is always four-wheel-drive.

By: assassin

assassin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:18:42 +0000

thatsit(mohamad). there is two engins in the GX-R tirm, V6 (181000) and V8 (201000) and both with same options. and there is a landcruiser VX-R that costs 214000 DHS. it got (kdss) which is an advanced innovative suspension, this system provides better comfortable in the street (specially not flat street and crossing dump) thats way Mash noticed that his LC was having same ride as a lexus cars. but this 214000 VX-R has no sunroof, leather seats, electric seats traction control, and of course there is no screen or rear camera). but if you want it with these toys it will costs 248000 DHS. so, yes, the Qx56 beats the LC in options for its price.

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:24:09 +0000

assassin the QX56 is the same as the USA version with every thing except the HD 9.3 GB they removed it here… so can you compare the options in that car with the LC that cost around 218000 and tell me which one has more options (forget about the strength and the Offroad sysem for now)….i will look at those figures later…

By: thatsit(mohamad)

thatsit(mohamad) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:58:16 +0000

mash, what do you think about what assassin is saying..is it good in the 3rd row(LC) as the armada and infiniti.
assassin, which one is the GXR (6-cylinder)??? you told me you have the VX-r right…and the infiniti for sure is faster than the 6 cyl LC and from the data given by mash its faster than the 4.7 LC also.
what differential controls you have in your car (4H, 4L, 2L) what else, and if not what you have???
answer please. And mash can you explain what every control do.
i went with my friend to al badayer with his prado (he told me the 4L is the strongest(they call it double) after that the 4H(single)…etc)..
the only thing that will affect the offroad ability of the armada and infiniti is the wheel base which is too long…i know i know